Open Thread Thursday

By Voxy  

I don’t *think* Thursday has been taken yet. ;)

Since it’s the blog’s first full day of existence, what are you jonesing for?

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  1. avatar Indianalitchick
    Posted October 25, 2009 at 2:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve noticed that the area between my eye socket and eyebrow is starting to sag. Do the drugstore brand of “eye lifting” products (Neutrogena, Olay, L’Oreal) work as well as,say, Avon or dept. store brands?


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 25, 2009 at 7:52 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Hi Indianalitchick,

      I haven’t tried the “lifting” products myself, so I can’t say, but I bet others would know. I might copy Lifehacker’s “Ask the Commenters” idea and cull some questions from the open thread to become posts at the top level of the blog where people who are not reading this thread might see it, and I think this would be a good one to include.



  2. avatar Mel
    Posted October 25, 2009 at 12:01 am | Permalink | Reply

    The javascript on “Reply” seems to be broken, so this is in answer to Roxy’s questions at #8:

    No medication interactions that I know of. What I do have is some sort of weird premenopausal hormone thing going on (that’s my theory anyway – I’m 49) where I burst into tears at the slightest provocation – and that’s partly causing or at least exacerbating the problem, because my mascara gets into my eyes, etc. I really haven’t noticed puffiness beyond what all the crying would explain, and no extreme redness, either. Everything burns when it hits my eyes, though, that’s mostly what I meant about irritating. And with all the crying going on, any eye makeup I wear is just going to end up in my eyes.

    My skin regimen is pretty hit or miss – I have always had oily skin, and pretty much only use moisturizer when I start noticing that my skin is dry – which is usually about this time of year, and continuing though the winter. I do have some Clinique All About Eyes, which I use when I think about it, and also some of that Benefit EyeCon stuff, which I only apply vary sparingly underneath when I use it at all, because I KNOW it irritates my eyes. So mostly I’ve just been forgoing it completely, lately.


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 25, 2009 at 9:27 am | Permalink | Reply

      Hi Mel,

      OK, I think the threaded-commenting should work now; the gray “reply” link at the end of the date/time line below your username should make a direct nested reply.
      I’ve always been an easy crier, so I sympathize, and the irritation really sounds uncomfortable! (Well, of course it does, I guess; what kind of “comfortable” irritation is there? :)) Also, you’re not the only person to report that Benefit EyeCon burns their eyes. You might want to take a look at the ingredient list and see if you can identify something that might be an irritant.

      In terms of makeup, you might try the new mascaras that coat the lashes in little polymer tubes (L’Oreal Double Extend, Blinc Kiss Me, etc.). Those are much less likely to smudge or get into your eyes, because the lash coating they provide does not consist of material that will flake off. It sounds weird, but they’re very effective.

      I don’t know what skin tone you are, but an amazingly good drugstore standby product for me is Cover Girl’s CG smoothers, which is a stick concealer. I have put it both below the eye and on my eyelid with no irritation, and if you can find the right tone for you it is really astonishingly good at covering up both dark circles and redness. Just covering darkness and/or redness on both the eyelid and the undereye area does wonders for making you look more bright-eyed both in the morning and post-crying-jag, even if you don’t put any eyeshadow on top of it. It’s easy to carry with you and touch up in the middle of the day if you need to. Because it’s a stick concealer, it’s a little more moist than a liquid, so if you find it too shiny for your oily skin, you can just gently blot it (even paper towels or TP is OK for this) and it should get rid of that.

      If you want to go to the next level and try some shadow, I’d recommend a very soft neutral that you only put in the crease and blend up towards the brow bone. Mineral-based products are less likely to irritate your eyes than others, so if you can find an inexpensive one to try, that would be ideal. If it works OK for you there, and you don’t feel irritation, you can try bringing it onto the lid towards the lash line. The color should be close enough to your skin tone that when you have it on you just look “finished” in a natural way, not made up. I use a soft taupe for this and it’s my “not-wearing-makeup” look. What you really need, though, is eyeshadow primer, which makes powder stay in place even through crying — at least in my experience of crying, which is EXTENSIVE. ;) I love Too Faced’s Shadow Insurance for this; a full-sized tube is about $17 and will last you forever. (If you can get a sample at Sephora or ULTA, even better.) Put the primer in the crease and up towards the brow bone (you only need a tiny dot of product on your finger), blend it in, wait a minute or two, and brush on a bit of shadow. It should stay put all day.

      Let me know if you end up trying any of these and if they work for you! (I hope they do!)


  3. avatar Why ME?
    Posted October 24, 2009 at 12:26 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I know I’m late to the game, and I hope our Foxalicious leader will forgive this late comment, but now that I’m nearing (ahem) age, I’ve started to notice the unbearable:

    Boob wrinkles.

    You know what I’m talking about. Suddenly, my best assets are showing their laugh lines.

    What is UP with that? And how can I make it go away?


  4. avatar Tuxedo
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Non-product solution to the neck issue: swimming. I know, that’s not something you can drop $50 for and take home in a bag, but I’m pretty sure that swimming has kept my neck and cheeks and lower face in general from surrendering to gravity quite so quickly.

    I’m interested in the kohl question, too. Although I recently got some _super_ advice (*wink wink*) about trying out L’Oreal’s eyeliner — I tried “Voluminous,” which looks disturbingly like a magic marker, but I am finally smudge-free! Honestly, I’m ecstatic.


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 23, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I’m going to move the kohl eyeliner discussion up to a top-level post so it will get more attention….


  5. avatar pinky
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I’d like to hear your thoughts on kohl-style eyeliner. Have you ever tried any? Do you have one that you like? I’ve got L’Oreal’s HiP right now and it’s okay, but the applicator is crap.

    I might try Guerlain’s with my next paycheck.


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 23, 2009 at 9:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

      This is a good question; I’ll post it for others to weigh in on!


  6. avatar Mel
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 5:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I have suddenly developed this thing where everything irritates my eyes, so I would love to hear your opinions on eye products that might be good for this! It’s very annoying – I just mostly have stopped wearing eye makeup altogether, although I’ve been experimenting a bit with waterproof mascaras, which are not quite as bad as the regular ones. (I hate getting older, dammit.)


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 23, 2009 at 11:01 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Hmm… this will sound like a dumb question, but isn’t. When you say “irritates your eyes,” what do you mean exactly? Are you talking about the skin around the eyes (red, puffy, itchy, inflamed, flaky), or the eye itself (eyes are red, dry, teary, painful)?

      Have you noticed any other changes in your skin? What’s your eye care regimen (creams, etc.)? And, are you on (or have you recently started) a medication that has eye irritation as a side effect?

      Tell us more!


  7. avatar marigolds
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

    More blackhead chat. (It’s so glamorous, right?) But I AM SICK OF THEM. Also, more wisdom on best AHA/BHA leave-on crap; I keep accidentally buying cleanser, which I know doesn’t do much since it doesn’t stay on long.


  8. avatar Epi
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Ah, okay. Which means I can’t reply to your reply to form a thread, since it doesn’t have the top row of links.



    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 22, 2009 at 10:09 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Argh. That should work. I have it set to do five levels of nested comments.

      Must. Look. At. Stupid. Code.


  9. avatar Epi
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:56 pm | Permalink | Reply

    (I can’t get the threaded commenting to work: the links just say “javascript:void(0)”–sorry!)


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:57 pm | Permalink | Reply

      It works for me when I hit the gray “Reply” text at the end of the line above the text of your comment, but not when I hit the blue “Reply” text in brackets at the end.

      Yet another WP mystery.


  10. avatar Epi
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:56 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Well, if the best we can do is talk about stuff, so be it. But who knows, maybe someone out there has hit upon a miracle?


  11. avatar BB
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 4:01 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Epi beat me to it.
    And really good curling mascara (though Lancome’s comes close). Must be water-proof.


  12. avatar Voxy
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Hmm… you want me to *provide* those things for you, or you just want to talk about them? One of these things is more possible than the other.

    Also, you do not have old-lady chicken neck. Nor jowls.

    (Oh crud, that was supposed to thread under your reply. I haz WP fail.)


    • avatar elsie
      Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:23 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I don’t know about Epi’s neck, but I was discouraged to see myself on video a few weeks ago and realize that my neck looked wider and fleshier than my face. I may look into a neck job.


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 25, 2009 at 8:51 am | Permalink | Reply

      (Ignore me; testing whether or not the nested comments will work.)


  13. avatar Epi
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Magical creams and potions that will make me look 10 years younger. Especially things that will make my burgeoning jowls and old-lady chicken neck go away.

    Mascara that continues to make my lashes look thick (they are plenty long) without clumping, more than a week after purchase. (Bonus points if it doesn’t smudge.)

    Lip products that make my lips look full (but not Botox-full) and soft rather than shriveled, which is their normal appearance these days.

    Inexpensive solutions for witch whiskers that don’t involve manual plucking.

    Not that I’m demanding, or anything. (And wow, can I paint a sexy picture of myself, or what?)


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