Opinions, please: Kohl Eyeliner

By Voxy  

mäkit3 by Idhren.

As per Pinky’s post (seconded by Tuxedo) in this week’s Open Thread Thursday:

I’d like to hear your thoughts on kohl-style eyeliner. Have you ever tried any? Do you have one that you like? I’ve got L’Oreal’s HiP right now and it’s okay, but the applicator is crap.

Opinions and suggestions, please!

I don’t use it myself, but not because I don’t think it’s a good product. No, I don’t use it because it violates one of the stupid rules I have for what I am and am not willing to do with makeup: I will not use any product that I have to sharpen myself.

(How dumb is that? I will spend hours figuring out how to use a liquid liner, I will stick hot rollers in my hair for 45 minutes in the morning, I will spend 20 minutes with a mud mask drying on my face, but I will not sharpen eye, brow, or lip pencils.)

I know the L’Oreal product is not a pencil, but loose kohl that you apply with a thing-that-is-not-quite-a-brush, so it doesn’t get covered under my stupid-things-I-will-not-do policy, but it brings up another thing that I intend to rant about later when I do a post on liquid eyeliners: things that are supposed to be brushes SHOULD BE BRUSHES. They should not be little foamy things that are the general tapered shape of a brush but that do not behave like one.

As you can see, I have some Issues. The L’Oreal packaging is very cool, though — they’ve definitely got the harkening-back-to-ancient-Egypt thing going on. The Guerlain is similar, right?

Those of you who use kohl, what’s your choice and why, and are there any application tips you can share?

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  1. avatar HonorH
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 9:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Hi, here via Plin! I like kohl eyeliner because I find it so much easier to use than liquid–and much less messy if you make a mistake–and it’s versatile because you can use a rounded point for a softer look and a pointed end for a harder line. I don’t mind sharpening it. Takes a few seconds. Well, unless you have one of those eyeliners that sharpens nicely, but as you remove it from the sharpener, the point stays behind. That is a pain, though you can rectify that by refrigerating it before sharpening.

    I do have a question that maybe you or your readers can answer: I get dark smudges from mascara under my eyes. I’ve tried waterproof mascara, which works better, but still smudges; I’ve tried laying on extra powder under my eyes; I’ve tried changing my foundation–nothing works. Anybody have a solution?


    • avatar Voxy
      Posted October 23, 2009 at 11:14 pm | Permalink | Reply

      See, you are so much less lazy than I am. ;)

      Often eye makeup moves around more on people with slightly oilier skin around the eyes (and because it’s such delicate skin and there’s so little oil on it to begin with, a slight variation in oiliness can make a big difference here where it wouldn’t on other parts of the face). I don’t know what the rest of your complexion is like, but this might be a contributing factor.

      Think about the mechanics of it. If you just put your mascara on (let’s use your upper lids as an example, though the lower would be the same) and just never blinked all day, your lashes would remain pretty much perfect. They never come in contact with other lashes that they might get caught in (pulling off minuscule flakes of mascara) and they never come in contact with skin oils that would soften and dissolve the oil-soluble parts of the mascara. Of course, since not blinking all day is not *really* an option, it helps to get a mascara that doesn’t flake easily and also to set the skin under the eyes with an oil-controlling substance so it doesn’t get greasy. (The problem here is that it’s easy to go too far in the other direction and get all dry and flaky under the eye. Ugh! Why does everything have to be SO COMPLICATED?)

      Two ideas come immediately to mind: 1) have you tried the mascara that makes the little tubes around your lashes? (L’Oreal Double Extend, Kiss Me, etc.) Those seem much less resistant to smudging. And, 2) have you tried putting shadow primer on the undereye? You have to be careful where it goes, because you can inadvertently make yourself look older if it goes in the wrong spot, but it is very good at controlling oil and keeping pigments where they belong. It might work on lower lids too.

      P.S. — Welcome! Now I owe Plin yet another check. ;)


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